[DuckMan]

I usually change tires and oil at the same time. Every 3000 miles.

 

[Bonaventure]

To the OP, use Silkolene Pro 4 instead. Not Pro 4 Plus, not Comp 4. Just Pro 4. Its an ester based oil formulated for street use. As mentioned earlier in the thread, competition oils are not meant for drain intervals typical of street bikes.

I am running the 15W50 flavor and the Multi seems to love it.

 

[cb4265]

Ok. After sifting though the many layers of BS it Apears the oil is just fine for my bike. Thanks for info, I think.


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Let that be a lesson to ya, don't ask about oil or tyres and expect a sensible answer! lol

Craig

 

[MTScott2]

Isn't oil good for only 2 months before it runs out of shelf life?

I change mine when it looks old and there is a new jug waiting to be used up.

Usually well before the recommended time interval.

Gives me a good feeling to know that there is fresh oil in there.
Placebo effect to some extent.
Street use!
Race, well then that is a different story.

Motul because it has a cool jug , and I let people see the ridiculous price some charge for it.

 

[Paisanoracer]

I change mine when it looks old and there is a new jug waiting to be used up.

It's nice to know I'm not alone judging when it's time to open a new bottle. They don't last long on my shelf, either.

 

[davy.j]

I've used 300V and it breaks down and loses viscosity earlier than other oils I've used, it doesn't have the required shear strength of Penrite for instance ( can see it plainly on the oil pressure gauge as the pressure drops after a 1000km or so of hard use)
Might be OK for short term race use but not for normal road bike change intervals.

 

[Slowdive]

Counterpoint: In my experience it's a race only oil (that's why it's called "Competition" right on the label) and breaks down quickly, causing said snot-slick shift action to become hard booger-action. There are better choices for street motorcycles...unless you like changing expensive oil a lot.

Not all 300V is labeled as "competition". AFAICT, the competition labeling is for cars:

The 300V Factory Line makes no reference to competition however some lablels do have the word "racing" on them (not the one in the pic):

I've heard this 300V thinning thesis on several forums, but neither on the label or Motul's website do I see the manufacturer represent 300V factory line as unsuitable for street use. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'm still looking for the manufacturer warning that supports the thesis.

BTW...here are some other oils that say "racing" but people use them on street bikes regularly...

 

[davy.j]

Do a search for Bob the oil guys comparisons and you'll see a test they did that confirms what my practical experience with the 300V told me.
On the other hand... just ignore it all and go ahead and use it.

 

[cb4265]

I've used 300V and it breaks down and loses viscosity earlier than other oils I've used, it doesn't have the required shear strength of Penrite for instance ( can see it plainly on the oil pressure gauge as the pressure drops after a 1000km or so of hard use)
Might be OK for short term race use but not for normal road bike change intervals.

I love it when Davy brings clarity to a crap thread.

Thanks mate & happy new year

I am happy with my choices & I don't answer to a higher God.

Craig

 

[Chuckracer]

I tried it in my 950 Supermoto once. Within 1500 miles the bike was shifting like it had old dino oil in the crankcase.

 

[DuckMan]

I've not had any issues with 300V up to about 3000 miles. At least not any more than any other oil I've tried. I agree they all degrade to the point if feeling it in the gear box about that time.

Ok, I'm anal but I swear i can feel the difference.

 

[Chuckracer]

I can too, and that's usually when I change...EXCEPT with Mobil 1.
With that stuff I have to go by the odo. Makes me so angry.

 

[nextfriday]

I've only ever used 300v in my duc. I like the color, the fact it's ester, and it does slick up the gear box. Only downside I've found is it can emulsify. Maybe all oils do, I don't know. So running your bike up to temp help burns all that crud off.


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[DuckMan]

Just about as cool as it gets..... The pull out spout on the 4 litre jugs.

 

[Yorik]

I've not had any issues with 300V up to about 3000 miles. At least not any more than any other oil I've tried. I agree they all degrade to the point if feeling it in the gear box about that time.

Ok, I'm anal but I swear i can feel the difference.

The Silkolene that I use is the same way. The shifts get grabby and rough right around 3k miles. When I start missing shifts, I know it's time for an oil change.

 

[cb4265]

I found this in another thread.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/138-streetfighter/451193-anyone-else-do-oil-analysis.html

Seems 3000 miles is too long an interval?

I normally change oil when neutral becomes difficult to select.

Craig